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How to develop discipline: A conversation with Ryan Holiday

The Colin and Samir Show

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Getting Out and Seeing Interesting Things

"We weren't living interesting lives. We had no point of view and no perspective on life because we hadn't lived it," she says. "The more experiences you have, the more interesting your life is, the more I think it informs the work"

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