Neoplatonism and Iamblichus' Theurgy with Jeffrey S. Kupperman
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The Practice of Ceremonial Magic
I think there's certainly be some of that yeah I mean, obviously there's going to be disagreement because they're philosophers and that's kind of what we do, we disagree with each other. So you think that it's probably all sort of agree on the, you know what, what is there to be done, where is the to go but really it would be societal cultural historical context where they'd go okay well this changed for us because this and this happened. And part of my, my work has been field work so there's a you know the element of cultural anthropology going on. So I have to delve into it to a certain extent. But when I was it wasn't really
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