Are we all Hell Bent? With Brian Recker
And Also With You
Fire as Refinement, Not Torture
The hosts explore biblical metaphors of fire as refinement and spiritual transformation rather than eternal torment.
Just in time for Halloween, we're talking about the spookiest thing of all: HELL. Or better yet - a belief in hell. Christianity's obsession with hell has us missing out on love, freedom, connection, and justice without punishment. We're joined today by bestselling author Brian Recker to talk about hell, how we unravel its chokehold on our faith, and what life can look like free from this fear.
Brian's book Hell Bent is here!
Lizzie's book (which we also talk about in this episode) is here!
We have one more fun seasonal episode next week before we kick off the much-anticipated miniseries on the Nicene Creed on November 10th!
MORE ABOUT BRIAN + HELL BENT:
A former evangelical pastor explains why we can stop worrying about hell and start focusing on love.
There is a black hole at the center of Christian spirituality: the doctrine of hell. No matter how hard we try to believe in a loving God, the fear of eternal torment always lurks at the back of our minds, warping our sense of what love means. Worse still, many churches act as if the point of Christianity is not to follow Jesus but to secure a get-out-of-hell-free card—and to “save” everyone you know by converting them to your religion. For many of us, the whole story of Christianity has punishment at the very center. But does the Bible really say we’re going to hell if we don’t do or believe the “right” things?
In this taboo-shattering book, former evangelical pastor Brian Recker takes an honest look at scripture and reveals what has been true all along: Hell isn’t real, and God’s universal love is radically inclusive, in this life and the next. By removing punishment from Christianity’s center, Recker boldly reimagines the core questions of faith, such as why Jesus lived and died, and what it means to be “saved.” It’s time to rediscover spirituality as Jesus taught it: loving God, and loving our neighbors as ourselves. Whether you’re Christian, exvangelical, or anywhere along a deconstruction journey, Hell Bent is the perfect resource to help you replace fear and church hurt with healing and peace.
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More about Father Lizzie:
BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/
RevLizzie.com
https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/
https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzie
Jubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org
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More about Mother Laura:
https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/
https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peaches
St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA
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