The Importance of Elitism in the Trades

In the Midwest and small towns, getting into something is very different than I live in New York City now. If there's something harder than getting into Columbia or NYU, it might be getting into the plumbers union. Have the trades changed the way that they attract and kind of train people? That's a really interesting point. We can learn a lot, I think, about the recruiting messages that we see in the armed forces. They're different. The army has a different proposition than the Navy.