This podcast is 15 minutes long. You can only havea start listening to it if you, if you know for sure that yure goin to make it. Press play at your own risk lock out a suitable amount of time on your schedule. So all right, episode 160, the eighte aid of christmas, that's the last time you were on this podcast. And that's round about the last time that we actually saw each other and talked to each other. Ar, so, well, that's how many years ago? 13, 14, 15, sixnten, seven. It's about five, four, four or five years ago, four years loss. Lots