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It's it's a really interesting topic because so I've been writing doing this blog for psychology today for the last year. So in each post, I choose one example of a research project that I think illustrates this this idea of some mental illness is being functional purposeful. So I've done one on depression, you know, this this idea of depression is your brain's wake up call. Some of the traits of BPD, some of the, you know, borderline personality disorder is really survival strategies that some people learned in response to real traumatic events or even dyslexia, we often think of it as, you know, your brain kind of disorder of reading and writing and there's some emerging evidence that it's actually a distinct evolved cognitive style that when we look at what we call dyslexia is actually a certain evolved style of cognition. And one side effect of that is difficulty reading and writing, but that's not, you know, that's not what the thing itself is. And two things I want to say about that one is that almost every time I write one of these posts, I get emails from people who are so grateful. I never get emails from angry psychiatrists saying, you know, how dare you, you know, suggest to my poor patients that they, you know, their brains are functioning fine, they're going to get off their meds and you should be ashamed of yourself. People don't say that rather I get emails from people who've been diagnosed with serious mental disorder saying, thank you so much for your post. I've never come across this viewpoint. I've been diagnosed with BPD for the last 30 years. Nobody's ever told me this idea. I've been diagnosed with depression for 20 years. Nobody's ever suggested this idea that my brain is actually functioning the way it should given the kinds of circumstances or with dyslexia that I have an evolved cognitive style. I don't, it's not, you know, learning disability or not just a learning disability, but the disabling aspects of it are aspects of this broader function or purpose. I mean, those are the kinds of emails that I get. And the second thing connected with this, I've been talking with some psychiatrists and psychologists who studied the problem of stigma. And, you know, since the 1980s, the received wisdom was, and this is, I got this message, and my dad got this message, the received wisdom was once you understand that your depression is, you know, it's just some kind of chemical misfiring in your brain, you'll feel better about yourself because you won't blame yourself for it. You won't think that it's because you're a bad person. I never thought that I was a bad person, you know, for when depressed. I don't think my dad ever thought that he was like a bad person for helping a psychotic episode. But, um, there's been this ton of research done that this chemical imbalance language can actually be more stigmatizing for people with schizophrenia, for people with depression, partly because it suggests that your problems stem from an irreversible brain defect. And it sometimes suggests to other people, hey, you might be unpredictable and you might be dangerous, because, you know, you have this brain defect and who knows what you're going to do next. So, it actually chemical imbalance metaphors tend to encourage other people to want to put distance between themselves and the person who's been diagnosed. So a friend of mine who's a professor of psychiatry, Hans Schroeder, he's been doing this really fascinating research recently, not just studying the negative stigmatizing impact of this disease, uh, language, but also looking specifically, and as far as I know, he's the only person doing this, looking at how framing depression as functional. What impact is that having on stigma? What impact is that having on the way that people actually think about themselves? And so what he did is he, he, uh, uh, about a year ago, he got together about 800 people who had some experience with depression and, uh, he divided them into two groups. And group A got this short lecture that framed their depression as a chemical imbalance.