Standards, Protocols, and Future Interoperability

News includes the exciting announcement of Tidewave Web, a new AI-powered service that runs locally in your development environment with an AI chat sidebar that can directly interact with and modify your Phoenix and Rails applications. José Valim joins us for a deeper dive into Tidewave as well! We also cover a comprehensive new ElixirLang blog post about interoperability in 2025 that explores all the ways Elixir and BEAM can work with other languages and runtimes, from traditional NIFs and Ports to newer options like AtomVM for microcontrollers, Popcorn for browser deployment, and integrations with Rust, Zig, Python, and C++. Additionally, Livebook Teams has officially launched out of beta with SSO support and enterprise features, Oban v2.20.0 brings job updating capabilities and improved plugin supervision, PhoenixAnalytics v0.4.0 adds 12 new themes and drops the DuckDB requirement, LiveView v1.1.7 introduces a new stream_async function, and more!

Show Notes online - http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/267

Elixir Community News

• https://paraxial.io/ – Paraxial.io is sponsoring today's show! Sign up for a free trial of Paraxial.io today and mention Thinking Elixir when you schedule a demo for a special offer.
• https://tidewave.ai/blog/tidewave-web-phoenix-rails – Tidewave Web service announcement - an AI chat in the sidebar that can directly interact with and modify your app during development
• https://x.com/josevalim/status/1957763507211927557 – José Valim's tweet about Tidewave implementing autoplay features and using contextual browser testing
• https://x.com/josevalim/status/1957545436824166605 – José Valim's tweet announcing the new ElixirLang blog post on interoperability
• https://elixir-lang.org/blog/2025/08/18/interop-and-portability/ – ElixirLang blog post "Interoperability in 2025 beyond the Erlang VM" covering NIFs, Ports, AtomVM, Popcorn, Hologram, and various language integrations
• https://x.com/josevalim/status/1956342836430881102 – José Valim's announcement that Livebook Teams is out of beta
• https://livebook.dev/teams/ – Livebook Teams landing page - deploy Elixir notebooks as internal apps with SSO and Google Workspace support, $30/editor pricing
• https://github.com/erlef/oidcc – OpenId Connect client library in Erlang & Elixir
• https://bsky.app/profile/oban.pro/post/3lwekwml7zc2k – Oban v2.20.0 release announcement with update job, unique state groups, and nested plugin supervision features
• https://hexdocs.pm/oban/changelog.html – Oban v2.20.0 changelog with detailed improvements
• https://hexdocs.pm/oban/v2-20.html – Oban v2.20.0 optional upgrade steps for pruning performance improvements
• https://x.com/mrpopov_com/status/1956006788819472594 – PhoenixAnalytics v0.4.0 release announcement
• https://github.com/lalabuy948/PhoenixAnalytics – PhoenixAnalytics repository - now supports 12 themes, Postgres/MySQL/SQLite, and no longer requires DuckDB
• https://bsky.app/profile/steffend.me/post/3lwod4ia6522e – LiveView v1.1.7 release announcement
• https://github.com/utopos/live_stream_async – Reference to live_stream_async library that inspired the new stream_async function
• https://hexdocs.pm/phoenix_live_view/1.1.7/changelog.html#v1-1-7-2025-08-18 – Phoenix LiveView 1.1.7 changelog with new stream_async function and portal hooks bugfix
• https://elixircasts.io/multiple-layouts-in-phoenix-1.8 – ElixirCasts video tutorial on new Phoenix v1.8 layouts functionality

Do you have some Elixir news to share? Tell us at @ThinkingElixir or email at show@thinkingelixir.com

Discussion Resources

• https://tidewave.ai
• https://github.com/tidewave-ai/tidewave_phoenix
• https://tidewave.ai/blog/tidewave-web-phoenix-rails
• https://x.com/josevalim/status/1957763507211927557
• https://agents.md/

Guest Information

• https://genserver.social/josevalim – José Valim on Mastadon
• https://x.com/josevalim – José Valim on X/Twitter
• https://github.com/josevalim – José Valim on Github
• https://dashbit.co/ – Dashbit website and blog

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