i would say that ti'm, it's almost like the rise of human civilization. The seed was planted, and and now we have a lot of things spawning from bit coin,. And so it's going to take a, it's going otscinsy a long time. Iand i really think, y, it goes back to that sea beam planted forever go through bitcoin with block chain. They're really driven by narrative driven by hey, no, justHey! You can't do this without me!" says Ike Kogan in his latest episode of TechCrunch Presents: Teknostar.

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