'If you think, well, if i did something that cause me to inflect positively more than negatively over the course of 80 years, that's a big difference,' says Thon. 'That tat's a fact. That's science.' He adds: 'You can't do that if you've already decided what those 15 thousand instances are going to be before you get there,. And i thing also got on finding as, you can’t do that without failing a lot'

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