i think the web now is, in a way, it's, you know, like the word multimedia. That was like a big word in the 19 and i think i still accurate words. I mian, i was on the committee at the local patont club, and it's the same - we need to stick to the rules. And staff ar so we, we, know that we normally start this podcast with the question, er, how do you describe yourself to people? So when you meet somebody new and they ask that horrible question, what do you do? How do you answer it? What art means to you? Yes, a mer artist kind of pretensions for it

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