On this week's episode of the podcast, freeCodeCamp founder Quincy Larson interviews Angie Jones. She's a developer and holder of 27 software patents. She's worked at companies like IBM and Twitter, doing both test engineering and developer advocacy.

We talk about:

- How a bad performance review from her boss early in her career taught her to be less timid and more vocal about her ideas.

- How she invented lots of software testing processes and holds 27 software patents.

- Her work at IBM, Twitter, and other big tech companies.

- How feature development and test development are completely different disciplines, which each require dedicated practice and their own mindsets

- Her interest in the game Second Life and the possibility of virtual worlds

- How she uses AI for debugging and test engineering

Can you guess what song I'm playing on my bass during the intro? It's a 1992 Acid Jazz song.

Also, I want to thank the 9,779 kind people who support our charity each month, and who make this podcast possible. You can join them and support our mission at: https://www.freecodecamp.org/donate

Links we talk about during our conversation:

- Test Automation University learning paths: https://testautomationu.applitools.com/learningpaths.html

- Angie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/techgirl1908