Cory Klippsten, founder of Swan Bitcoin, and Ben Werkman, CIO of Swan, join us to break down the next evolution in Bitcoin investing: public companies engineered from the ground up to maximize Bitcoin exposure. This isn’t MicroStrategy 2.0—it’s something entirely new. From Swan’s vertically integrated model to the overlooked opportunities in private credit, Cory and Ben reveal how Bitcoin-native strategies are disrupting traditional finance from the inside out. In this episode, we explore why buying spot Bitcoin is just the beginning—and how Swan is building a full-stack financial institution with Bitcoin as its base layer. We unpack the hidden leverage behind Swan’s business model, the risks and rewards of taking the company public, and what it takes to navigate capital markets while staying true to Bitcoin values. Whether you’re a sovereign individual, fund manager, or curious builder, this episode unlocks the future of Bitcoin capital formation—and the asymmetric edge that Swan is betting everything on.
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