When you look at all the studies on fiber having a positive effect to some degree or another, it's pretty hard to refute that there isn't something really interesting there. One study is just going to move me just a little bit and maybe if another one comes out, it'll move me a little more. And then like very slowly I'm going to get some, I mean, my experience with LDL cholesterol, this is something I changed my mind on a while back.

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