Do You Have a Love Affair With the Industry?

I did every single job under the sun for dots it's at the time we were part of a different brokerage and so I split time I was basically a secretary slash property manager assistant. So fortunately that gave me a really awesome ground level view of what this whole thing is. My relationship with Duke was a big part of it my involvement with Narpham has been a big part, obviously. But there's a really great part about being involved and volunteering your time and giving back that keeps you attached to the industry.