"Once you've done your due diligence, like I said, when you leveled up and didn't take it, if you know you've taken them along for the ride," he says. "I'd rather have an empty seat than a pile of shit sitting in a seat warming it up." If they don't like it or they're not good at it, pretty much that's a sign right there,. It's an easy barometer or you can even say, all right, they have the skills and are they a skill fit or are they a culture fit? That tells you right off the bat, a lot of times that's not gonna be a good fit".

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