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The Dark Side, Federico?

Federico: I've been dipping my toe into some of this stuff as well, like over the last few months and longer actually. And I think that there is something here, but I feel like a lot of it at the moment feels very, especially when it comes to like working stuff. He says he hopes Apple can come out and show off a thing that has an not exact but close to Like original iPhone like presentation.

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