The Relationship Between Humanity and the Rest of the Web of Life

Rushdie: I want to go back to something Tina was mentioning earlier on, not just in terms of the relationships of care. But also to see this as opposed to NGOs, to a certain professionalized understanding of where humans fit in transition towards revolutionized society. What's the opposite of an NGO? It's a social movement. And if you're interested in understanding what it's like to be engaged in these acts of commoning, then being part of a social movement is the first step into that sort of material transformation.