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308: No More Dongles

Dear Hank & John

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The Moments of Joy and Satisfaction

"I just have to keep remembering it, because i always feel like i don't know anything," she says. "There is a feeling of joy or satisfaction or something when things start to click in together." She's had those moments in every career: writing, public speaking and chaplaincy. 'Those moments are so fulfilling that they make the frustration that comes before worth it'

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