I would love to understand this better, because I do know there are these examples, which are very provocative. But I don't understand how robust it is. Is it inevitable? Does it always happen? Or are we cherry picking examples where it happens? And I'm just not really sure. We've indulged ourselves a little bit of less practical mathematical speculation. To bring it back to close things up, you know, you have done an enormous amount for spreading the word of mathematics,. as it were, to a broad set of people.

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