The Conway's laws is really like true principle in many software design or architecture. And you mentioned that it is an approach to solve complex and large-scale data problems. So does it mean that not everyone will need to go to data mesh since the beginning? Yeah, I think at this point in time, I mean, well, if you don't have the organizational complexity, if your lake or lake house or warehouse model is not a bottleneck for you, well, why introduce the concept that's rather complex? It creates kind of system complexity.

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