When I, 19, so that was right before the, it was before the Marshall War, it was late 1970s. So my mom got involved and I got involved with my friends up there on the different level. My mom was involved in school and this is how it went. And so then we started, there was really not much to do at the time because the solidarity was doing everything. There were, there was the first trade union, the one for trade union. There was the first movement in Eastern Bloc country that was independent from socialist regime. That's when I started actually maturing.

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