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S3, Ep4 How to Fail: Deborah Frances-White

How To Fail With Elizabeth Day

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How to Be an Overachiever

"I had to become a very good improviser and then I sort of lost it," he says. "It's not enough to be OK with failure. You have to enjoy being bad." His boxing teacher, Honest Frank, who listens to this podcast is always saying that when you miss a punch or you do it badly, that is part of the process.

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