critical thinking is a really difficult thing, i think, finding it in a practical way that when you're trying to teach students. I've been airing weekly podcasts since june of 20, fourteenth, and have had one other episode besides yours on the topic of critical thinking. What she really stressed on the episode was the importance of us talking about it with one another. And those conversations are so critical. Even within the humanities and social sciences, where we do see some similarities, but we all so see quit differences.