Zell: I've always thought of myself as a pretty self aware person. But honestly, when it comes to all this other stuff, it makes me wonder if I really know myself at all. He's fearful that he actually do have that potential but also misplaced his own judgment of my potential. What happens if Zell decides to make the world a better place? Is he going to be successful? Smurky: It's only in the headspace of those who are still in the definition of success.