Baruch HaLevi opens this conversation with a statistic most listeners have never heard: every 13 minutes in America, a man dies by suicide, and men account for roughly 80% of all suicide deaths. For Baruch, this isn't abstract. He's lost family members to suicide across multiple generations, and he candidly shares that he himself came close to the same fate about a decade ago, during a period of profound identity loss after stepping away from 20 years as a rabbi.

Grounded in the work of Holocaust survivor and psychiatrist Viktor Frankl, Baruch and Larry talk through what actually helps a man in genuine despair: finding a "why not," the specific reason to keep going, learning to sit with guilt without letting it curdle into shame, and the necessity of real, honest community instead of empty check-ins. Both men share their own history with suicidal crisis directly. If you or someone you love has ever been in a season that felt unbearable, this conversation offers a clear, compassionate way through it, but given the depth of what's discussed, please take care with how and when you engage with it.

Timeline Summary

[1:24] Introducing the statistic behind Baruch's mission: a man dies by suicide every 13 minutes in America

[2:41] Baruch shares that his father and grandmother both died by suicide, and that it's deeply personal to his work

[4:50] Larry and Baruch each share their own history of suicidal crisis

[7:07] Discovering Viktor Frankl's work as a turning point during his own darkest season

[11:11] Rebuilding identity from the ground up after stepping away from a lifelong profession

[12:22] A full introduction to Baruch: logotherapist, rabbi, author of "The Guy in the Glass"

[13:40] The origin of the book's title, tied to a poem given to Baruch by his grandfather

[16:21] Larry announces the first-ever Dad Edge Day with the Arizona Cardinals, November 15th

[18:24] Baruch reflects on why his father reached the point he did

[27:46] Introducing the concept of a "why not" as a foundation to keep living

[29:49] Discussing how the idea of "finding your why" has become diluted in modern culture

[31:19] Viktor Frankl's concept of self-transcendence: living for something beyond yourself

[36:50] Larry announces a rare, small-group preview of the Dad Edge Business Boardroom Brotherhood

[38:00] How genuine community changes the experience of shame and crisis

[41:11] Why hiding in isolation during a hard season is actually a disservice to others

[45:37] The loss of Baruch's closest friend, and the concept of "bearing witness" to another man's life

[47:45] Unpacking the phrase "shame dies in safe conversations," and the difference between guilt and shame

[49:53] Details on Baruch's book, his mission, and where to find his work

[51:37] What Baruch would say directly to a man in a moment of crisis

[53:24] Larry shares an important reframe he once heard from his own therapist

Five Key Takeaways

Finding a concrete "why not," a specific reason not to give up, can be as important as finding a broader life purpose when someone is in genuine crisis.
Guilt and shame are not the same thing. Guilt corrects behavior and can be redemptive; shame attacks a person's fundamental worth and has no redemptive value. Healthy communities make room for guilt and accountability without slipping into shame.
Self-transcendence, living for something or someone beyond yourself, is described as the deepest source of meaning available to a person, more foundational than personal happiness or self-actualization alone.
Withdrawing into isolation during a hard season doesn't protect the people who care about you, it deprives them of the chance to show up for you, and it removes the example of bravery that could help someone else going through the same thing.
Genuine connection, being truly seen and known by another person, is one of the most protective forces against despair. Real community requires honesty, not surface-level check-ins that accept "I'm fine" as a real answer.

Links & Resources

Baruch HaLevi: https://bhalevi.com
The Guy in the Glass by Baruch HaLevi: https://bhalevi.com
The Dad Edge Day at State Farm Stadium: https://thedadedge.com/nfl
The Dad Edge Boardroom Mastermind: https://thedadedge.com/guest
The Dad Edge Podcast: https://thedadedge.com/1530

Closing

If you are having thoughts of suicide, or you're worried about someone who might be, please don't wait. Call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, available 24 hours a day, every day. You are not a burden, and the people who love you would rather have you, in any season, than lose you. If you're not in crisis yourself but this episode brought something up for you, please talk to someone you trust, or a licensed therapist, today rather than carrying it alone.

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