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Francis Fukuyama: Can Putin's war rescue liberalism?

UnHerd with Freddie Sayers

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The Greatest Criminals in the World Are Driven by the Desire for Recognition

I think that, ah, any human striving depends on this sense of pride. If you didn't want to be recognized as a great pianist or writer then you probably wouldn't strive for excellence. So all of us want the attention and that comes with great human achievement and excellence. And so i don't think you could have excellence if you didn't have the striving for more. I mean, in a way, it's kind of morally neutral. It doesn't fall within this economic calculus that i think you rightly associate, in many respects, with classical liberalism.

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