I think we need to reevaluate the libertarian perspective that a sexual relationship is the business of the parties involved. What somebody experiences as being harmful is oftentimes dramatically different than what another person experiences asbeing harmful. To impose the expectation that they should be experiencing harm or must be experiencing harm, I think is questionable from a humane moralistic approach. So where does this leave Zofili? Zofili is a tough one. It depends on how you operationalize parafilia. We all have strong... We all are turned on by certain things with others. Right. But yeah, I think that we are so preoccupied with this question of what is natural and unnatural that we're losing