I don't think we can think about this through the lens of any other animal. A meditator would say we are not our thoughts, right? But at the same time, you know, there are certain things about me that would cease to make me me if they didn't exist. I had a woman on this podcast who said her husband killed himself while he was on active duty. It was PTSD, it was explosive breaching, like all those things that the brain gets exposed to.

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