Caitlin Flanagan returns! The unapologetic author of On Thinking for Yourself (a selection of her excellent essays for The Atlantic) comes to talk to us about the fall of Western civilization, what happens when you let church-going go, what happened to universities, and why (though a Catholic herself) Caitlin has started wearing a Star of David.

Check out (the juicier) part two of this conversation (for paid members only) here.

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On the agenda:

-Praising our AI overlords

-A post-apocalyptic, post-church West

-Dangerously under-educated

-Why Caitlin wears the Star of David

-When/how universities went wrong [

-On parenting and Ballerina Farm

-P.S. - Adaam’s reflections on wearing the Star of David

Mentioned in this episode:

-Our previous episode with Caitlin (Uncertain Things)

-On Thinking for Yourself (Caitlin Flanagan)

-Calvin Coolidge’s Address at the Celebration of the 150th Anniversary of the Declaration of Independence in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (UCSB)

-Overtime: Bob Costas, Coleman Hughes, Caitlin Flanagan | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

-From Dawn to Decadence: 1500 to the Present: 500 Years of Western Cultural Life (Jacques Barzun)

-Part two of this conversation (Uncertain Things LOCKED)

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