"I get called fun, right all the time and I kind of vehemently kick against that because Hopefully you can write some pumpkin the 2020s of any use It's a literary movement in the 80s and 90s and it was incredibly important back then," he says. "It's not something for me to talk about cyberpunk now and looking at some of the same issues Science fiction and publishing are super lazy if you write a book about computers"

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