A lot of these fry based projects are still in test net as my understanding. I recently announced on Twitter that Stark X will move up from 80 bits to 96 bits of security, which I think is great. But when I saw the security level that was being used in stark where it's deployed systems, I didn't feel it was high enough. So if things are permissioned, it might be more reasonable to have a security level whereby the basically proofs can be forged. And there might be, with Stark X, maybe there's, they've moved one stage up into training wheels.

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