Speaker 2
And this is why, you know, you've written, you just need to shut it down. I mean, you need to shut down this advanced, the more advanced AI right now, because we just don't know what the heck is happening. How did you get started in this? I mean, when was your aha moment on this? I
Speaker 1
mean, I think, well, there's been roughly like two aha moments in my life. There's the moment where I first read somebody pointing out that when artificial intelligence or anything else gets actually smarter than present day humans, that's a breakdown in our model, the future pass there. We can't predict exactly what goes on from there, because, you know,
Speaker 2
going to involve minds that are smarter than us.
Speaker 1
You know, not the most sophisticated way of putting it, but I was 16 years old at the time. This is really like 1996. And then the second one was the point where I actually came to terms with the notion that this isn't automatically going to end well, that the minds we built are not automatically going to be nice, that it's going to take work to do that. And then from there, it's like a long process over the years of realizing that it was going to be difficult to do this, of watching how little effort people were putting into it, of the AI technology, getting more inscrutable than it was when I was a kid. AI didn't always used to be built in a way where nobody understood it. Yeah.
Speaker 2
And yeah, it's really... What's like the first AI? I mean, as far as like the definition we're using for AI, you know, what's the first AI?
Speaker 1
I mean, depending on the definition you use, the first true AI hasn't been born yet, or some people would say GPT-4 and some people would say GPT-3. Okay. There were very early AI's that played chess, that played back gamut, and that was called Artificial Intelligence Back in the day. They're not really like hard borders. Yeah.
