The internal pieces is the harder part, but it's also the one that is most sustainable in terms of achieving the transformation or the change or the shift that you want to make. And i think with women, part of the challenge is that they are not necessarily conditioned for leadership positions early on. So a lot of what we have to work with them on is not just a mind set in terms of seeing themselves as a leader,. What does that mean and how do they want o lead? How do they want to be known?

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