How to Hire a Desperate Hire

The average stay right now is what? Three, three and a half years. And so even the 12 to 18 months, like Matt said, we strive to get somebody way before that time. The first thing we tell search committees is number one, it's probably going to take at least twice as long as what you think it's going to take. We try to tell them brief, this doesn't surprise God. He's not surprised at this, but give give your leadership team, give your board, give your search committee, give your congregation room to breathe.