Ike: Having an hour to sit down and really break down the assu ons that are holding me back from doing a thing that i want to do is incredibly valuable. It's hard sometimes when you know your friends kind of know you, they also know you in one particular way. And so it is just thinking cafe, i speak to somebody outside of my realm, and they can view my work through a different lens. I love just asking my clients really provocative s to help to push them out of their comfort zone. Most of us just go round and round in spirals and get really stuck.

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