Ike: Since we last talked, i have become a pretty avid zen student. I've been doing coon work with a teacher and recently passed my hundredth coon. So i have an appreciation of the ways in which zen shows up in your teachings that i did not have prior to thati see it. Ike: What if wel all did that? What if we really spoke from our experience? You know, we might be much more benign towards each other if that was the case.