Growth is an ideological terrain, ultimately, and it's important to be able to challenge that core ideological claim. And that's effectively what degrowth does. The key thing for most people to understand is to have a clear idea of what capitalism actually is, right? Because obviously the first word that comes into mind when discussing these disastrous policies of constant growth and expansion is capitalism. So what is it in our social organization that engenders systems like capitalism to become dominant? And what can we do about it to minimize that as we look to degrow and decarbonize the economy?

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