David Neeleman has founded five airlines, including JetBlue. He recently launched a new airline, called Breeze.

His problem: How do you use technology to bring down the cost of airfares?

He's been working on that problem for decades -- from inventing ticketless travel in the 1980s, to building a 21st century airline where customers never need to call customer service to ask for help.

If you’d like to keep up with the most recent news from this and other Pushkin podcasts be sure to subscribe to our email list.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.