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Jonathan Martin and Alexander Burns: Trump, Biden, and the Battle for America's Future

Commonwealth Club of California Podcast

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The Trump Dilemma

Soyden: Up until january sixth, the republicans and democrats struggled with hols seriously to take trump. Soyden: He had every sort of sign of a would be authoritarian who was trying to weaken institutions. On the other hand, he seemed kind of like more bark than bite in many political actors' eyes. And that's why i think that tension of which is trumpet? Is he eiter taken seriously as a real threat to american democracy or its kind of a side show?"

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