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Let's Talk Headship: A Conversation (Part 1)
With The Perrys
I'm Flagellants. You Put a D. It's Okay. Go Ahead.
"I want to be this leader that I feel like society in such toxic ways has taught them they supposed to be," he says. "Underneath a lot of men, it's just somebody who just wants to lead well and probably just hasn't been given the right tools."
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