Introduction

The vander blooming leadership podcast is hosted by christa rhinehart. This week we talk with jo b martin, founder and lead pastor of the church of 11 22 in jacksonville, florida. Joby shares about his newest book, if the tomb is empty where he walks us through the cross of jesus christ in the empty tomb. If you have tried planting a church, and you want to know some ways that work and don't work, this is going to be helpful to you.