What teacher fundamentally changed the way that you live your life? Maybe it was a math tutor that really just taught you to read tarot or an English teacher that showed you the importance of not taking yourself so seriously. Today's special guest is Pamela Pietro, a teacher that changed Michelle's life. Michelle and Pamela reflect on what it means to channel your adversity into your art, the practices that still ground them in uncertainty today, and what it looks like to stay on your path even when you're ready to quit.

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