Ben silverman stepping down again is not surprise. I think he's missed a lot of turns, and now the stock is down. They had a lot they've had to talk about e manage turn over there. One of their high ranking women executives sued them. Also, two people of color sued them. And never really moved intot ecommer space like they're moving now. But any time i had dinner with him, he was enthusiastic about everything. He wanted out. The burdens were heavy on him as a ceo.

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