Malink: There's this growing belief, kind of at least in the west, that avoiding struggle and finding the most comfort possible is what's can lead to happiness. But there's another strong movement,. i'd say it's maybe a little bit smaller, but there's another people who are really getting deep into stoicism and seeking out just hard things. So do you think that struggle is what creates purpose? Well, both those things you said are both valid approaches to life. Both can work. And i'm smiling because it's what my next book is about, the one that i'm still writing. It's called how to live. The idea is that you could take the easy