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The Chinese Government Is a Surveillance Economy, Right?
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The Chinese government is a surveillance economy. And if we complain about it here, boy, where do you go over to China and live over there? I think that's... It's not jingoistic to point that out. The idea that I thought Matthias had, which is Moses, we're resisting putting our stuff up there. We think it's a good product. Our government's looking at it. There's oracles involved. There's all kinds of things. But let's be clear. This is the issue."
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