The Useful Idiots Podcast - Katy Hawper, Gabmate's Son

This episode is with katy hawper. She's co host of the useful idiots podcast, formerly with mataebe and now with the aron mate, gabmate's son. We also talked about her background as an activist, as a film maker, as a stand up comic,. A as a writer, journalist in various ways... And how she got into the situation she's in now, where she's interviewing a politicians and journalists. I think i feel like i'm already too immersed in the news of the day. Sometimes i'm looking forward to getting out in the desert and not paying attention to stuff.