August 13 — Former Vice President Mike Pence and Rep. Dean Phillips
Meet the Press
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The Importance of Listening to Data
The last four sitting presidents who had serious primary challenges lost the White House. I'm not saying he's not up to a second term, what I'm saying is look at the data. My job is to listen. Can he change the data? That's the challenge. And if nobody's willing to talk about it before it's too late, that's the key.
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