The Biggest Thank You to All the Listeners

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Veryry: I just want to send a big thank you out to everyone who's been a part of the show over the years. A lot of people have told me they've listened to every episode, from the very beginning. Listeners, for a ten year anniversary gift, send aron anymal aaron lammer, g mal dot com. This week i talked to catlan dickerson about family separation under the trump administration.

Caitlin Dickerson is a staff writer for The Atlantic covering immigration. Her latest article, on the secret history of U.S. government’s family-separation policy, is ”An American Catastrophe.”

“Interviewing separated families, I’ve found, is just on a whole other scale of pain and trauma. I’ve watched people have really intense PTSD flashbacks in front of me. I never wanted to risk asking a family to open up in that way if I didn’t know that I’d be able to use that material. The worst thing you can do is waste someone’s time in a way that causes them pain.”

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