"It's like we wanted and this is very to me of course in miracles is the garden of Eden and the prodigal son just from much more extreme vantage points," he says. "God wanted us all together in him or in god as one thing but it's like there was part of us that was like wouldn't it be nice to be separate just as an experiment justlike as an innocent little game like what if we were separate and then bam it all happened." He continues: "We developed the ego and the ego is a creature of duality and it says come with me or God will kill you and we go okay it's like Schwarzenegger come with me if you want