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77. Double Date with Brandi & Catherine Carlile!

We Can Do Hard Things

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The Radical Side of Domesticity

"I could not have imagined it when Catherine and I got married illegally without a license all those years ago to think that not only are we all really married, but we're sitting here talking with kids as atypical parents," she said. "It almost makes you- It almost makes you - On an extend a little bit of compassion Totally."

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